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skandinavska architektura nemusi byt minimalisticka alebo chladna ale aj zmyselna ..
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kto uhadne? neni to take tazke ako sa zda—
Tu mam len tusaka sama, ale nie som si ista. Kto ma uisti?
a vie mi niekto vysvetlit preco bola pani Majka Terka nahradena
Milankom R. Stefanikom? a o sa s nimi stalo? Ukradli ich a roztavili?
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AHoj Tonda..
Odpoved na historiu norskeho konzervovania na konci 19.stor dostanes coskoro,slubujem… len kam ju zaradim? to tejto temy nepatri. Kazime docentovi serial. Teraz by bodlo aby bola hostoria konzervovania v slovencine dokelu. :x Nieco vymyslim.
a tie angl prispevky. DIk za feedback! :wink: kazdopadne to nebol pokus o ziadnu prednasku pre studentov, su to moje poznamky z prednasok. Iba zachytne body ktore sa daju dalej rozvijat. Moja spoecializacia? :smt042
ja mam BA v kunsthistorii , a popri tom 10 kurzov z konzervovania zamerane na :etiku, historiu, preventivnu konzervaciu, vizualne vnimanie, historiu technik a materialov. Chystam sa na magisterske, ale primacky boli posledne na jar 2005 a dalsie su na jar 2008. takze cakaaam.. kazdopadne to bude malba. To uz viem.AAA a Le Duc a Riegl su pripravovane kapitoly. :wink:
to freya:
ahoj, mel bych na tebe jednu prosbu…zajima me trosku vyvoj muzejni konzervace ve skandinavii a konkretne osud (snad) norskeho konzervatora pusobiciho v muzeu v oslo(christianii) roku 1892(provazel F.W. Rathgena)…predpokladam, ze neslo o dnesni historicke muzeum protoze to bylo zalozeno asi o neco pozdeji…byl to vyznamny odbornik, ktery se s jistotou venoval napr. konzervaci kovu…pokud by jsi nekde narazila na nejaky biograficky clanek v beznejsim jazyce(EN, D, Rus, Pl apod.:-) byl bych ti vdecny za zprostredkovani……cetl jsem si i tvoje prispevky na english foru a mam jeden zasadni dotaz – proc jsi to nenapsala slovensky?:-)…nerikam, ze z desitek citatelov sa vsichni budou etikou zabyvat ale mozna by jsi nektere nahlodala!…je to skutecne hezky obecny uvod do problemu, o kterem se muze rozvinou diskuse…nicmene myslim, ze v anglictine je podobnych sanci nekolik zatimco veslovenstine ne…no ale mozna jsi k tomu mela dobry dvod:-)…jinak me zarazila pouze schematicnost a snad az zjednoduseni v te zaverecne kategorizaci…myslim, ze je to mnohem komplikovanejsi a hlavne…syvm studentum bych to asi timto nevysvetlil…uzivam radeji pohled, zohlednujici kategorii casu – v podstate jedna skupina odborniku si stop stari vazi a respektuje cas, zatimco druha nikoli a snazi se obnovit hypotetickou “puvodni” kvalitu dila a casovost artefaktu valstne znehodnocuje…taky me zaujalo, ze sice zminujes Ruskina ci Morisse ale pro nasi soucasnou praxi meli vetsi vyznam spise Riegel, Dehio ci Dvorak…no a z “opozice” by si urcite pozornost zaslouzil Viollet le Duc, pripadne dalsi…toz tak asi:-)…tesim se na odpoved – nerad bych dopadl jako ty (s temi monology:-)
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presunula som zbytok prispevkov do novej temy:
http://www.obnova.sk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=23505#23505aby sa zachovala hlavna myslienka tejto a prehladnost.
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autenticita – ve středoevropském kontextu jedna ze zásadních kvalit komplexní hodnoty muzejního sbírkového předmětu odrážející se v jeho hmotě. Autenticita spočívá v míře dochování původních znaků vázaných na muzejní sbírkový předmět, které dokumentují skutečnou roli předmětu v minulosti. Nešetrnými zásahy může být autenticita poškozena. V jiných kulturních okruzích se však může vnímání autenticity významně lišit.
konzervátor-restaurátor – je vzdělaný, zkušený a kvalifikovaný profesionál schopný provádět komplexní zásahy na ochranu muzejních sbírkových předmětů. V různých jazycích je tento specialista označován různými termíny. V německy mluvících zemích se nazývá „Restaurator“ v anglofonní oblasti se můžeme setkat s pojmem „Conservator“. Protože v českém jazyce existuje více variant, rozhodli jsme se použít termín „konzervátor-restaurátor“, který více reflektuje provázanost obou činností a je také standardně užíván v mezinárodní literatuře.
Rádi bychom znali názor všech lidí, pro které je terminologie oboru tématem k diskuzi.
Problém konzervace vs. restaurování je další obsáhnou kapitolou…Tu su nejake rozrobene diskusie na tuto temu:
terminologia:
http://www.obnova.sk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=6390&highlight=&sid=98e7ec1ab12b9a023f562377259a9cf5#6390 -
Ahoj docent,
tak tady je slovnicek k uvaham…jo rad bych se zeptal zda by jsi nemohl rozepsat ten zaver sveho prispevku – jak jsi to myslel, ze konzervator neni restauroator?…to je celkem jasne – nicmene at uz odbornika nazyvame tak ci onak porad obyvykle provadi jak konzervaci tak i restaurovani…nebo ne?Ehm ehm.,.. vedela som ze docent vytiehne nasu staru temu v ktorej sa asi nikdy nezhodneme my dvaja. ( To sme totiz skusali aj osobne na obnova stretnuti redaktorov vyriesit pri cigarete a vinku a kartach zehej :smt014 )
DOcent al SASHA totiz nesuhlasi s tym ze restaurator je aj konzervatorom. :smt017
8O
No.zacalo to niekde tuna :
Otazka dnesneho tyzdna je: Je restaurator konzervatorom??? :smt101
Respektujem pripomienku administratora. Prosim pisme odpovede do temy restaurovanie vs.konzervovanie, inak sa tato tema rozrastie a nebude prehladna. -
Jeden z najzaujimavejsich skandinavskych filmov ktore som kedy videla, v anglickom jazyku s prekrasnou Maria Bonnevie, a Gerard Depardieu a neodolatelny Christopher Ecclestonom.
I am Dina ( Jeg er DIna)
Pribeh putavej melodramy z konca 19.stor v severnom Norsku.
krasna hudba, kostymy …. Film bol aj v nasich kinach v roku 2002. Videli ste? -
Odd Nerdrum (born April 8, 1944) is a Norwegian figurative painter.
Nerdrum was born in Oslo and studied traditional classical painting in the Art Academy of Oslo and, with Joseph Beuys, in New York. He began to teach himself how to paint in a classical manner, putting himself in direct opposition to the art of his native Norway. Nerdrum devised a method of painting of mixing and grinding his own pigments, stretching his canvas and the working from live models. He had his first one-person gallery exhibition in New York at the Martina Hamilton Gallery in 1983. He is now living in Iceland. Nerdrum became a controversial artist, claiming among other things that his art should be understood as kitsch rather than art as such.
Nerdrum divides his time between his home in Iceland and his farm in Norway
Art
Hermaphrodite, oil on canvas, 211cm x 205cm, by Odd NerdrumOdd Nerdrum’s art shows some affinity with Rembrandt and Caravaggio, particularly in regard to technique. This, however, is where the similarities end. His paintings are undoubtedly contemporary and depict many of the anxieties we feel about the modern world. In the 1980s, his work took on a more mythical appearance with figures roaming through an apocalyptic landscape. In the spring of 1986, Odd Nerdrum visited Iceland for the first time. He then started to use the landscape in Iceland as backdrops for his allegorical paintings. It is sometimes difficult to tell whether the paintings show the past, present or future. Perhaps this is the point they are timeless. There was growing unease and tension in his paintings in the early 1990s. Relations between men and women appear strained, but there is a more conciliatory spirit in some lighter works produced in the summer of 1997. Themes recently seem to be centred around gender and the metamorphosis of the human body, seen in any works depicting hermaphrodite figures in which man and woman merge. Other works show the images of the artist asleep. It is even possible that these images are metaphors for death or other anxieties. Of course in common with most of his work there is a degree of mystery and this is what gives his work it’s compelling and imaginative qualities.
Collections
His work is in several important public collections including the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden in Washington, DC, The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, NY, The National Gallery in Oslo, Norway, The New Orleans Museum in LA, The Portland Art Museum in OR, The San Diego Museum of Contemporary Art in CA, and The Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, MNExhibitions
The kiss, oil on canvas, 98cm x 78cm, by Odd NerdrumKunstnersforbundet 1967-70-73 Oslo-76-84
Galleri 27 Oslo 1972
The Bedford Way Gallery 1982
Martina Hamilton Gallery 1984
Delaware Art Museum Wilmington 1985
The Museum of Contemporary Art ,Chicago IL 1988
Lemberg Gallery Birmingham 1991 MI
Gothenburg art Museum Sweden 1991
Bergen Art Museum Norway 1992
Edward Thorp Gallery New-York 1992
New Orleans Museum of Art 1994
Forum Gallery ,New-York 1996
Astrup Fearnley Museum, Oslo Norway 1998
Kunsthal Rotterdam ,The Netherlands 1999
Amos Andersson Museum, Finland 1999
Young Classic, Harry Bergman Gallery, Alands Art museum 2000 FinlandReviews
“There are more men than women here, but sexual pairing seems to occur only in death (or a sleep resembling death). Which is not to say desire is nowhere present. It is everywhere. If anything makes these pictures compelling, it’s their consistent fascination with the human body. The images–of paired corpses, madmen, men in pain, a man without eyes–may be frightful and abhorrent, but every limb and torso is lovingly rendered. Pale, muscular, sexual, the figures are painted so that one must take them seriously–in much the same way that it is music that grounds the otherwise bizarre stage spectacles of Wagnerian opera.”Odd Nerdrum by Justin Spring, part of a review first published in Artforum International, April 1st, 1993
Bibliography
Odd Nerdrum:Paintings,Sketches and drawings by Richard Vine.Odd Nerdrum: Paintings by Jan-Erik Ebbestad Hansen
Odd Nerdrum:Storyteller and Self Revealer by Jan-Åke Pettersson.
Odd Nerdrum: Drawings BY Odd Nerdrum.
Trivia
Dawn, oil on canvas, 284.5cm x 194cm, by Odd NerdrumThe 2000 movie The Cell, starring Jennifer Lopez and Vince Vaughn, which relied heavily on disturbing images and surreal landscapes to create the inner mind of a killer, was influenced by Nerdrum’s painting “Dawn” for one scene in particular. In the film three figures are depicted sitting down, looking upwards with painful trance like expressions on their faces and appear to be carbon copies of each other. They show the same disturbing presence as Nerdrum’s painting and are undoubtly influenced by his image. The painting was completed in 1990.Nerdrum created the cover of the progressive rock band Junipher Greene’s LP Friendship (1971).
Links:
http://www.artincontext.org/artist/n/odd_nerdrum/index.htm
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/nerdrum_odd.html/
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…ze si mozte objednat mapu Unesco online ZADARMO na
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Viete ze kartoteka Registeru kradezi umenia ART LOSS ma registrovanych viac ako 170 000 odcudzenych predmetov? Ak by sa spravila vystava vsetkych odcudzenych diel, jej velkost by bola viacsia ako akakolvek ina vystva kedykolvek… medzi dielami by boli: Vermeer, Dali, Miro, POllock, Warhol, Rubens , Caravaggio.. Je to tazke nenajst meno slavneho umelca na takejto vystave zlodejov. FBI tvrdi ze tento”trh” robi viac ako 38miliard NOK (krat4,5= SK) rocne. Kradeze obrazov su na 3 mieste v rebricku kriminality hned za narkotikami a zbranami…
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V decembri 2006 sa konzervatori muzea zhodli na tom, ze obraz “vykrik” sa neda zrestaurovat tak , aby po dlhsej dobe nepodlahli horsej degradaci
Do retusovania sa pustit nechcu, pretoze moderne pigmenty sa po 10 rokoch mozu zmenit tak ze poskodenie bude vidno este viacej.
konzervatorka Anne Milnes a riaditelka muzea Ingebjørg Ydsti -
Vlcik tak to je presne to co som citala v jednej zaujimavej knizke.
Vola sa Blue and yellow dont make green. Je prefektna a podla nej namiesas hocijaky ton aky si zelas a aj v akvareli!
http://www.schoolofcolor.com/acatalog/Blue_and_Yellow.html
tu je niekto kto sa okrem mna s tym pohral.
http://www.sewanee.edu/chem/chem&art/Detail_Pages/Projects_2004/Maehara/index.htmlA či aj dva-tri “oleje” na palete medzi sebou obcujú, aby nový odtieň splodili, tak na to sa ešte budem musieť pozrieť…… :roll:
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K temam ktorych si sa dotkol ohladom zdelania a remesla
http://obnova.sk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1528
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jasne…. tuna som sa snazila cosik tosik nacat.
http://www.obnova.sk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1520
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Vsak napr olej Eo… co sa stane ked prekryvas vrstvy?
HArp, ja som nemala na mysli vnimanie farieb ako take.. skor AKO PRESNE VZNIKNE ZO ZLTEJ A MODREJ ZELENA? nema to nieco s absorbovanim svetla? napr ze jedna farebna dlzka absorbuje druhu? CHapete uz co mam na mysli?kratke a dlhe vlnove dlzky?
dopisem myslienky neskor dnes lebo ma niekto dorazi ze dnes meskam zase