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TONDA!!! kde si doteraz bol????? 8O Uz davno ma zamestnavaju podobne vyzvy odboru! Pri navsteve mojej domoviny som neraz zacula slovo remeslo. Myslela som ze ma vystre.

Uplne s tebou suhlasim co sa tyka zrucnosti konzervatora.Vsetky zasahy sa totiz da s troskou tvrdej prace a chcenia naucit. Najdolezitejsie je pokus o spravne rozhodnutie a troska zdraveho rozumu. Co sa tyka preventivnej konzervacie povazujem ju za najdolezitejsiu , akysi odrazovy bod.

Eticky kodex novy?? Ber nas ako pokusne kraliky. Vseetko diskutujme! vsetko spochybnime! Hladajme nove otazky, pochybnosti, vyzvy.. snahy sa priblizit spravnemu kroku.
Teoria verzus prax…

Ps: stale cumim do monitora ci zle vidim alebo sa ma ustipnut.
No je to mozne ?, ja som sa dockala obratu na obnove? Nediv sa ze takto sa bavim sama so sebou. SOm zvyknuta na monology.

tu stranku hned prezriem, daj mi cas nech ju poriadne prestudujem. Nedalo mi totiz hned nereagovat na prispevok

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Tonda na niekoho0 ako si ty som osobne cakala ako na sol!!!!! :hello1:

Musim skonstatovat ze si nastartoval novu eru obnovy a taktiez otvoril brany do sirsieho sveta! ANi nevies ako sa uz tesim! Zelam pevne nervy pri odpovedani na rozne otazky, budes potrebovat.

Ozaj , zaujima ma tvoja specializacia v obore. Pripadne kolegovia.

co sa tyka otazky kolko profesionalov sleduje obnovu?? no dooost vela.. vacsina co ma pristup na net. Nezapajaju sa, ale sleduju.

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:smt082 bohovska odpoved! DAKUJEEM!

Mne ide trochu viac o tu tie fyzicke a chemicke vlastnostii a oddvovodnenie ako fyziologicke..

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It might be relevant to compare two different approches:

The “Traditional” craft vs. scientific approach

traditional skills:
• Artistic / Hand Skills
• Color Matching Abilities
• Knowledge of Historical
Techniques and Materials
• Drawing / Draftsmanship
• Connoisseurship
• Business Sense

Science:

– Deterioration and Preservation
of Materials
– Use and Development of
Modern Materials
– Analytical Techniques
– Display / Environment
– Travel and Packing
– Storage
• Ethics
• Documentation
• Communication / Relevance
– Colleagues (Publication)
– Larger Public (Exhibitions and
Initiatives)
– “Stake holders” (Strategy)
• Management
• Legal Aspects
• The Global Context
• Sustainability (The long term…)

The earliest surviving portrait of a restorer?
Jan van Dijk, mid-18th c.Historical Museum, Amsterdam

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The Renaissance Evaluated•

In retrospect, the Renaissance may be seen as a time when many important concepts came into being, although they were not necessarily put into practice.

These included protective legislation, establishment of official posts for monuments care, a debate concerning the integrity of the object.

On the positive side, interventions saved many monuments from destruction.

However, Christianization of ancient monuments continued (although some of these projects reinforced structures), ancient sites were used as
quarries, sculptures were completed, paintings were restored.

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Neoklasicka? alebo neoklasicistická?

Veru, su to dva rozdielne pojmy…

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Giorgio Vasari (1511- 1574)
Published: Lives of the Painters, Sculptors and Architects, 1550

Vasari’s approach was typical for his time. He was deeply interested in historical aspects of the arts. He criticized Pope Paul II for using ancient monuments such as the Colosseum as quarries. However, he also remarked:

”… restored (antiquities) certainly possess more grace than those
mutilated trunks, members without heads, or figures in any other way
maimed and defective.” (no respect for the original)

and described Gothic art as:
”…monstrous and barbarous, and lacking in everything that can be
called order”. (no respect for periods whose aesthetic he did not like)

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zacni tym ze sem mozno posles obrazok…

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Ahoj Docente.. mam tu pre teba mensiu pozornost: obrazocek :)

Vrabce tu cvirikali ze kaviarnik sa nam uz coskoro vrati!! Vraj ty o tom vies viac. Odkaz mu prosim ta, ze nam tu uz velmi chyba …

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Viete do ktorej rozpravky okrem Werichoviek som bola v detstve zamilovana?
Urcite ju poznate, je z 80rokov… Prave ju sledujem v TV pri kavicke a kolaciku. Ronja Rövardotter. Mozno ma to inspirruje napisat clanok o vikingskych lodiach? :love5:

http://www.youtube.com/v/tKCmrR6gymA

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A letter attributed to Pope Leo X, attributed to Raphael and his circle,
urges protections of Rome’s monuments.
Subsequently, Raphael is named Prefect of Marbles and Stones in 1515.
During Raphael’s administration, in 1517 Iacopus Mazochius was given a 7 year privilege to produce an epigraphic study of the inscriptions (monumenta) of Rome, effectively the first listing of protected monuments of the city, published 1521.

However, subsequent popes had no qualms about “Christianizing” ancient
monuments to serve their own purposes. Quarrying continues and Rome is sacked in 1527.

Raffaello Santi (Raphael)
(1483-1520)
Self Portrait, 1506,
Uffizi Gallery, Florence

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Rome protected (sort of)

• Rome’s growing prestige led once again to a new interest in protection of her physical substance.

• 1425 Pope Martin V recognized a need for restauratio et reformatio. He issued a bull establishing the office of Magistri viarum, who was responsible for the maintenance and protection of Rome’s streets, bridges, gates, walls, and to some extent, her buildings.

• The first bull specifically for the protection of ancient remains was issued in 1462 by Pope Pius II.
However, laws were difficult to enforce and some popes used ancient sites, such as the Colosseum, as quarries…

•Rome had come to embody art and civilization.

•Collectors collected remains of ancient sculptures and great collections were formed which served as status symbols for their owners. By the 17th
century, supplies were growing scarcer and prices would rise above the means of smaller collectors.

•As the prestige of the collections grew, so to did interest in condition. Fragments, formerly accepted, began to be the focus of restoration
work.

•Equally, ancient monuments were often hijacked by popes and nobles; re-worked they served as memorials to the present, no longer the past.

Rome Commercialized: Restoration begins

• In the 15th century, the Medici commissioned Donatello to restore and complete antique fragments for their palace in Florence.

• In Rome, similar work was undertaken for the Cardinal Andrea Della Valle (1463-1534) who commissioned Lorenzo di Ludovico to complete statutes and introduce antique elements into his garden landscape. This started a fashion for the restoration of sculpture in Rome.

• The ability to restore well became a mark of a sculptor’s skill.

Laocoön
Roman version of a Greek original, rediscovered in
1506 and subsequently restored several times:

Casting of the restoration of Montorsoli, 1532

The Hellenistic work with the original arm reintegrated

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The Renaissance:

•The beginnings of historical identity.

•Francesco Petrarch (1304-74) and subsequently other humanists, begin to
look to the past for inspiration. Worldly accomplishment in the realm of the arts and sciences (areas of human achievement) are now seen as possible
and desirable not sacrilegious.

•From the 16th century onwards, a marked increase in written histories (of nations, of art, of sciences, etc.) appear as interest in self-definition in a historical context grows.

•The artistic heritage of the Ancient world finds new appreciation – this time, through Christian filters, setting a new standard for achievement.

•The “artist” emerges alongside the “craftsman”.

• Consequently, the concept of a “work of art” also develops,
in opposition to religious images or commodities.

Giorgio Vasari,
Self-Portrait (detail), Oil on canvas
Galleria degli Uffizi, Florence

Art + History = the birth of Art History as a concept

• Artistic value and historical value are applied simultaneously to ancient objects.

• In light of their new status, they are seen as deserving of different treatment than religious images which respect their proper aesthetic – not their cult value (not consistently, however!!)

• Increase in interest in antique works of art results in a commercial market for the same. Archeology begins to uncover the ancient world although without a logical methodology…

• …Rome also becomes a destination for study for artists, architects, etc. This leads to increased influence of ancient culture in all spheres of the modern arts.